When you decide to create a podcast, you have to start somewhere. We've been calling this episode The First Pancake because this is where we started. We didn't want to subject a guest to all of our awkward, beginner-ness so we interviewed each other. This was our mock-up episode, we used it to work out our tech issues, audio quality, music, editing and format. We were planning to shelve it, you know the way you do with old sketches, jigs and models. But then we changed our minds and thought, hey—you guys might actually want to know a little more about us, why we're doing this, and what the process has been like. So we brought it back, and shined it up.