Interior designer and TV personality Nate Berkus reveals his favorite early 80’s fashion ensemble, his childhood obsession with hair product and how his youthful restlessness got him sent to boarding school and even landed him in jail for a night. He shares the big lessons he learned from his years working with Oprah and elaborates on his earnest mission to help people tell their own stories through their spaces. Oh and apparently he’s a “bad picker” of people, but he’s gotten help with that.

Keep tabs on Nate at nateberkus.com and follow him on Twitter, Facebook, Pinterest and Instagram.

What book(s) is/are on your nightstand?

The Nest by Cynthia D’Aprix Sweeney
Watch Me Disappear: A Novel by Janelle Brown
Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis by J.D. Vance

Favorite restaurant in your city?

Tower Bar, Los Angeles + Alla Cucina delle Langhe, Milan

What’s the best advice you've ever gotten?

“When someone tells you who they are, believe them” – Dr. Maya Angelou

What are the last five songs you listened to?

- How Far I’ll Go from Moana
- Ain’t No Mountain High Enough – Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
- Come on Ride the Train – Quad City DJs
- Summer Days - Rhye
- Wheels on the Bus

…yep, most are Poppy’s choices!

Special thanks to Chris Modl of Yore Studio for editing this episode.
Music in this episode courtesy of El Ten Eleven—hear more on Bandcamp.
Shoutout to Jenny Rask for designing the Clever logo.

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